Comments on: Proposal Would Deny Federal Money if Employees Must Provide Medical Care to Which They Object (WashingtonPost.com) http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom Religious liberty and freedom of conscience Mon, 21 May 2012 02:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: David S http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-211 David S Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:29:48 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-211 Will this apply to all government funded activities. What about soldiers who refuse to serve in overseas wars because of moral or religous objections? The Administration is only happy to support the religous freedoms of those it agrees with. I believe no one should be forced by their work to perform actions they believe to be immoral. But sometimes a person will have to sacrifice their job in order to follow their beliefs. If you cannot agree with the moral position of the employer you should leave. Why should this particular belief (it's abortion again let's be clear) be privileged over others? Will this apply to all government funded activities. What about soldiers who refuse to serve in overseas wars because of moral or religous objections?

The Administration is only happy to support the religous freedoms of those it agrees with.

I believe no one should be forced by their work to perform actions they believe to be immoral. But sometimes a person will have to sacrifice their job in order to follow their beliefs. If you cannot agree with the moral position of the employer you should leave. Why should this particular belief (it’s abortion again let’s be clear) be privileged over others?

]]> By: David S http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2713 David S Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:29:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2713 Will this apply to all government funded activities. What about soldiers who refuse to serve in overseas wars because of moral or religous objections? The Administration is only happy to support the religous freedoms of those it agrees with. I believe no one should be forced by their work to perform actions they believe to be immoral. But sometimes a person will have to sacrifice their job in order to follow their beliefs. If you cannot agree with the moral position of the employer you should leave. Why should this particular belief (it's abortion again let's be clear) be privileged over others? Will this apply to all government funded activities. What about soldiers who refuse to serve in overseas wars because of moral or religous objections?

The Administration is only happy to support the religous freedoms of those it agrees with.

I believe no one should be forced by their work to perform actions they believe to be immoral. But sometimes a person will have to sacrifice their job in order to follow their beliefs. If you cannot agree with the moral position of the employer you should leave. Why should this particular belief (it’s abortion again let’s be clear) be privileged over others?

]]> By: Alison Agins http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-205 Alison Agins Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:40:21 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-205 "The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God." "today" does not have a claim to being more immoral than "yesterday". History shows us just how really bad things can become when the state is run by the church. Do a google search for Protestant Reformation or Inquisition. As the holder of "everything" God does not force anyone to obey or worship Him. Since God does not do this, then mankind should never place themselves above God and think to do the job better and more complete than God. That smacks of self righteousness and pride and above all hypocrisy. Which is something that God really does hate. There is a saying that Molly Ivans used a lot. "You dance with the one that brung you." Meaning that those institutions that accept government money which is in fact citizens money have to follow the rules of the one supplying the money. But there must be an answer to this. This is a clear sort of thing that the institutions should always try to accommodate and work out a solution. It would seem really stupid if someone went to a Catholic hospital and demanded an abortion. But if it is a state run hospital then that is a different story. For the person that is working there that could not perform an abortion because of religious or moral issues, then they should not be fired or punished. And the institution should make other arrangements with someone else. Personally, I would not want a health care worker doing any procedure on me that they thought was morally wrong to do. I don't think the level of care would be what I would want for myself or anyone else for that matter. “The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God.”

“today” does not have a claim to being more immoral than “yesterday”. History shows us just how really bad things can become when the state is run by the church.
Do a google search for Protestant Reformation or Inquisition.

As the holder of “everything” God does not force anyone to obey or worship Him. Since God does not do this, then mankind should never place themselves above God and think to do the job better and more complete than God. That smacks of self righteousness and pride and above all hypocrisy. Which is something that God really does hate.

There is a saying that Molly Ivans used a lot.

“You dance with the one that brung you.” Meaning that those institutions that accept government money which is in fact citizens money have to follow the rules of the one supplying the money.

But there must be an answer to this. This is a clear sort of thing that the institutions should always try to accommodate and work out a solution.

It would seem really stupid if someone went to a Catholic hospital and demanded an abortion. But if it is a state run hospital then that is a different story. For the person that is working there that could not perform an abortion because of religious or moral issues, then they should not be fired or punished. And the institution should make other arrangements with someone else.

Personally, I would not want a health care worker doing any procedure on me that they thought was morally wrong to do. I don’t think the level of care would be what I would want for myself or anyone else for that matter.

]]> By: Alison Agins http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2707 Alison Agins Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:40:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2707 "The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God." "today" does not have a claim to being more immoral than "yesterday". History shows us just how really bad things can become when the state is run by the church. Do a google search for Protestant Reformation or Inquisition. As the holder of "everything" God does not force anyone to obey or worship Him. Since God does not do this, then mankind should never place themselves above God and think to do the job better and more complete than God. That smacks of self righteousness and pride and above all hypocrisy. Which is something that God really does hate. There is a saying that Molly Ivans used a lot. "You dance with the one that brung you." Meaning that those institutions that accept government money which is in fact citizens money have to follow the rules of the one supplying the money. But there must be an answer to this. This is a clear sort of thing that the institutions should always try to accommodate and work out a solution. It would seem really stupid if someone went to a Catholic hospital and demanded an abortion. But if it is a state run hospital then that is a different story. For the person that is working there that could not perform an abortion because of religious or moral issues, then they should not be fired or punished. And the institution should make other arrangements with someone else. Personally, I would not want a health care worker doing any procedure on me that they thought was morally wrong to do. I don't think the level of care would be what I would want for myself or anyone else for that matter. “The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God.”

“today” does not have a claim to being more immoral than “yesterday”. History shows us just how really bad things can become when the state is run by the church.
Do a google search for Protestant Reformation or Inquisition.

As the holder of “everything” God does not force anyone to obey or worship Him. Since God does not do this, then mankind should never place themselves above God and think to do the job better and more complete than God. That smacks of self righteousness and pride and above all hypocrisy. Which is something that God really does hate.

There is a saying that Molly Ivans used a lot.

“You dance with the one that brung you.” Meaning that those institutions that accept government money which is in fact citizens money have to follow the rules of the one supplying the money.

But there must be an answer to this. This is a clear sort of thing that the institutions should always try to accommodate and work out a solution.

It would seem really stupid if someone went to a Catholic hospital and demanded an abortion. But if it is a state run hospital then that is a different story. For the person that is working there that could not perform an abortion because of religious or moral issues, then they should not be fired or punished. And the institution should make other arrangements with someone else.

Personally, I would not want a health care worker doing any procedure on me that they thought was morally wrong to do. I don’t think the level of care would be what I would want for myself or anyone else for that matter.

]]> By: Aaron http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-209 Aaron Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:29:19 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-209 This is a wonderful proposal. Employees should receive the same rights as those who go to school seeking religous/moral protection from saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Many youngsters (including college age) seek protection from reading certain books due to religious/moral differences. If we allow our kids the option to not participate in something, then shouldn't we as adults have the option to not participate in an abortion? Should doctors be forced to perform assisted suicide? Yes, the effects of this proposal could/will go much further than abortion and assisted suicide, but the choice to not perform such exam should be available. It is sad though, that we must seek government assistance to ensure our liberty to choose. Even sadder that if the medical facilities do not allow their employees to choose based on moral/religious objection that the government will strip them of the needed funds to provide necessary procedures (heart surgery, brain tumor removal surgery, etc.). All of us, regardless of profession, should have the liberty to choose what is right for our beliefs. I would like to see this carry through, maybe with some refinement. This is a wonderful proposal. Employees should receive the same rights as those who go to school seeking religous/moral protection from saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Many youngsters (including college age) seek protection from reading certain books due to religious/moral differences. If we allow our kids the option to not participate in something, then shouldn’t we as adults have the option to not participate in an abortion? Should doctors be forced to perform assisted suicide? Yes, the effects of this proposal could/will go much further than abortion and assisted suicide, but the choice to not perform such exam should be available. It is sad though, that we must seek government assistance to ensure our liberty to choose. Even sadder that if the medical facilities do not allow their employees to choose based on moral/religious objection that the government will strip them of the needed funds to provide necessary procedures (heart surgery, brain tumor removal surgery, etc.).

All of us, regardless of profession, should have the liberty to choose what is right for our beliefs. I would like to see this carry through, maybe with some refinement.

]]> By: Aaron http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2711 Aaron Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:29:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2711 This is a wonderful proposal. Employees should receive the same rights as those who go to school seeking religous/moral protection from saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Many youngsters (including college age) seek protection from reading certain books due to religious/moral differences. If we allow our kids the option to not participate in something, then shouldn't we as adults have the option to not participate in an abortion? Should doctors be forced to perform assisted suicide? Yes, the effects of this proposal could/will go much further than abortion and assisted suicide, but the choice to not perform such exam should be available. It is sad though, that we must seek government assistance to ensure our liberty to choose. Even sadder that if the medical facilities do not allow their employees to choose based on moral/religious objection that the government will strip them of the needed funds to provide necessary procedures (heart surgery, brain tumor removal surgery, etc.). All of us, regardless of profession, should have the liberty to choose what is right for our beliefs. I would like to see this carry through, maybe with some refinement. This is a wonderful proposal. Employees should receive the same rights as those who go to school seeking religous/moral protection from saying the Pledge of Allegiance. Many youngsters (including college age) seek protection from reading certain books due to religious/moral differences. If we allow our kids the option to not participate in something, then shouldn’t we as adults have the option to not participate in an abortion? Should doctors be forced to perform assisted suicide? Yes, the effects of this proposal could/will go much further than abortion and assisted suicide, but the choice to not perform such exam should be available. It is sad though, that we must seek government assistance to ensure our liberty to choose. Even sadder that if the medical facilities do not allow their employees to choose based on moral/religious objection that the government will strip them of the needed funds to provide necessary procedures (heart surgery, brain tumor removal surgery, etc.).

All of us, regardless of profession, should have the liberty to choose what is right for our beliefs. I would like to see this carry through, maybe with some refinement.

]]> By: trish http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-208 trish Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:34:26 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-208 I agree with what the government is trying to do. Medical workers should not have to perform procedures that they feel are morally wrong. I feel that the hospitals should protect it's workers, but if that is not happening, then the government must step in. The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God. I agree with what the government is trying to do. Medical workers should not have to perform procedures that they feel are morally wrong. I feel that the hospitals should protect it’s workers, but if that is not happening, then the government must step in. The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God.

]]> By: trish http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2710 trish Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:34:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2710 I agree with what the government is trying to do. Medical workers should not have to perform procedures that they feel are morally wrong. I feel that the hospitals should protect it's workers, but if that is not happening, then the government must step in. The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God. I agree with what the government is trying to do. Medical workers should not have to perform procedures that they feel are morally wrong. I feel that the hospitals should protect it’s workers, but if that is not happening, then the government must step in. The reason that we have all of the immoral things happening today is because of people taking God out of everything, there is no separation of church and state, or should not be. Everything belongs to God.

]]> By: Brandon http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-207 Brandon Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:20:31 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-207 What a complex issue! On the surface, this appears to be a great idea as medical workers should not be forced to perform procedures or provide services they object to morally. But, is it the government’s role to provide these protections? The best case scenario would be for the employees to work things out with management- if they can’t, they should find a new place to work. But we all know that this won’t happen as the government continues to expand the nanny state. What a complex issue! On the surface, this appears to be a great idea as medical workers should not be forced to perform procedures or provide services they object to morally. But, is it the government’s role to provide these protections? The best case scenario would be for the employees to work things out with management- if they can’t, they should find a new place to work. But we all know that this won’t happen as the government continues to expand the nanny state.

]]> By: Brandon http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2709 Brandon Mon, 04 Aug 2008 01:20:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2709 What a complex issue! On the surface, this appears to be a great idea as medical workers should not be forced to perform procedures or provide services they object to morally. But, is it the government’s role to provide these protections? The best case scenario would be for the employees to work things out with management- if they can’t, they should find a new place to work. But we all know that this won’t happen as the government continues to expand the nanny state. What a complex issue! On the surface, this appears to be a great idea as medical workers should not be forced to perform procedures or provide services they object to morally. But, is it the government’s role to provide these protections? The best case scenario would be for the employees to work things out with management- if they can’t, they should find a new place to work. But we all know that this won’t happen as the government continues to expand the nanny state.

]]> By: Jay Wayne http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-206 Jay Wayne Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:17:23 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-206 I believe in the separation of Church and State. Medical professionals have the right to select a field of work and/or refuse to perform certain duties. But, they should not be protected by the Government instead Hospital Management should make these judgements. I believe in the separation of Church and State. Medical professionals have the right to select a field of work and/or refuse to perform certain duties. But, they should not be protected by the Government instead Hospital Management should make these judgements.

]]> By: Jay Wayne http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2708 Jay Wayne Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:17:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2708 I believe in the separation of Church and State. Medical professionals have the right to select a field of work and/or refuse to perform certain duties. But, they should not be protected by the Government instead Hospital Management should make these judgements. I believe in the separation of Church and State. Medical professionals have the right to select a field of work and/or refuse to perform certain duties. But, they should not be protected by the Government instead Hospital Management should make these judgements.

]]> By: daryl http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-210 daryl Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:38:44 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-210 I agree to what the Bush administration have done with regards to having a proposal to protect the health care workers that helps in promoting the use of birth control pills. This step of the administration is one effective way of solving the problems of the economy especially on population control. With regards to the part of the church, no one can blame for how they reacted with what the Bush administration did. they are also promoting the dignity of the people. They are just following the law of God. This step of the administration not only bring chaos between the state and the church. It also have benefits for the people of the state and to the economy of the state. I assumed that before the administration did this step, they already think of the results and the possible reactions of the people. In my own opinion, there is nothing wrong with what the administration did. there are just doing their job in promoting and safeguarding the people of the state. I agree to what the Bush administration have done with regards to having a proposal to protect the health care workers that helps in promoting the use of birth control pills. This step of the administration is one effective way of solving the problems of the economy especially on population control. With regards to the part of the church, no one can blame for how they reacted with what the Bush administration did. they are also promoting the dignity of the people. They are just following the law of God. This step of the administration not only bring chaos between the state and the church. It also have benefits for the people of the state and to the economy of the state. I assumed that before the administration did this step, they already think of the results and the possible reactions of the people. In my own opinion, there is nothing wrong with what the administration did. there are just doing their job in promoting and safeguarding the people of the state.

]]> By: daryl http://religiousliberty.tv/proposal-would-deny-federal-money-if-employees-must-provide-medical-care-to-which-they-object-washingtonpostcom.html#comment-2712 daryl Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:38:00 +0000 http://www.religiousliberty.tv/?p=210#comment-2712 I agree to what the Bush administration have done with regards to having a proposal to protect the health care workers that helps in promoting the use of birth control pills. This step of the administration is one effective way of solving the problems of the economy especially on population control. With regards to the part of the church, no one can blame for how they reacted with what the Bush administration did. they are also promoting the dignity of the people. They are just following the law of God. This step of the administration not only bring chaos between the state and the church. It also have benefits for the people of the state and to the economy of the state. I assumed that before the administration did this step, they already think of the results and the possible reactions of the people. In my own opinion, there is nothing wrong with what the administration did. there are just doing their job in promoting and safeguarding the people of the state. I agree to what the Bush administration have done with regards to having a proposal to protect the health care workers that helps in promoting the use of birth control pills. This step of the administration is one effective way of solving the problems of the economy especially on population control. With regards to the part of the church, no one can blame for how they reacted with what the Bush administration did. they are also promoting the dignity of the people. They are just following the law of God. This step of the administration not only bring chaos between the state and the church. It also have benefits for the people of the state and to the economy of the state. I assumed that before the administration did this step, they already think of the results and the possible reactions of the people. In my own opinion, there is nothing wrong with what the administration did. there are just doing their job in promoting and safeguarding the people of the state.

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